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Value Investing: The Starvine Way
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Episodes
S3E8: What I Learned About Investing From Darwin: Don’t Be Lazy – Be Very Lazy (Part 3)
In this episode of Value Investing: The Starvine Way, we wrap up our three-part deep dive into Pulak Prasad’s What I Learned About Investing from Darwin — and tackle the most counterintuitive pillar of his philosophy: “Don’t be lazy… be very lazy.” At first glance, that sounds like standard investing advice: trade less, be patient, let compounding work. But Prasad goes much deeper. Drawing on evolutionary biology, punctuated equilibrium, and decades of real-world investing results, he explains why short-term volatility is often meaningless — and how inactivity, when applied to the right businesses, becomes a powerful competitive advantage.
S3E7: What I Learned About Investing From Darwin: Buy High Quality at a Fair Price (Part 2)
We keep unpacking Pulak Prasad’s What I Learned About Investing from Darwin and move from pure defense to intelligent offense. We show how to narrow thousands of stocks to a tight focus list using one metric: ROCE (Return on Capital Employed). From there, we layer on robustness—the business equivalent of a roll cage—using traits like excess cash, fragmented customers/suppliers, high entry barriers, stable management, and slow-changing industries. Real-world case studies illustrate how high-ROCE, robust companies survive hits, compound cash, and seize opportunity when others can’t. We also tackle convergence (why certain business models win across time/geographies and others chronically destroy capital). Finally, we break the Pavlovian habit of reacting to macro headlines and hot themes, and double down on the only variable we truly control: entry price.
S3E6: What I Learned About Investing From Darwin: Avoid Big Risks (Part 1)
In this first installment of our three-part series on What I Learned About Investing From Darwin, we explore one of the most original and thought-provoking contributions to the world of fundamental investing in recent years. Written by Pulak Prasad—an investor with an exceptional long-term track record—this work blends evolutionary biology with practical investment wisdom in a way few others have attempted. In Part 1, we focus on Prasad’s central principle: avoiding big risks. While most investors are drawn to potential upside, Prasad emphasizes the importance of minimizing the chance of permanent capital loss—a mindset that aligns with his genuine “forever” holding period. Drawing on lessons from Darwin and the natural world, he highlights how survival—both in nature and in investing—is often about what you don’t do.
S3E5: AI in Investing: Andi Kerenxhi of Ubineer
What are the implications of AI for professional investors? We spoke with Andi Kerenxhi, founder of Ubineer, on AI’s current benefits for investors and how it is likley to shape the landscape of both active and passive investing. This interview was recorded on December 17, 2024. S3E4: Investment Wisdom: Rockefeller’s 38 Letters To His Son
In 2023, a collection of 38 letters from J.D. Rockefeller to his son was published. These letters spanned over four decades and were not previously widely available. Contained in the 194 pages is a treasure trove of wisdom relating to a broad range of topics. However, for this episode, the focus was on Rockefeller’s advice that is helpful from an investing perspective. Be sure to obtain a copy of the book to gain access to the inner workings of his mind. S3E3: Kim Shannon, Sionna Investment Managers
It is not easy to find current investment managers whose track records precede the 1987 crash. Learn from the experiences of distinguished value manager, Kim Shannon, as she discusses a range of topics including how she navigated some of the most challenging times in market history, the importance of having mentors, what it takes to be successful in investment management, and the paucity of women in the industry. S3E2: Christopher Mayer – Drawdowns
Drawdowns occur with enough regularity on both the market and stock-specific level that it is critical for investors to be equipped to deal with them. In this interview, Christopher Mayer imparts his compelling insights on this topic. S3E1: Dr. George Athanassakos – The Role of a CEO
Great CEOs tend to be great value seekers. Dr. Athanassakos shares his expertise in an area that has historically been overlooked by financial academia: the ability of CEOs to allocate capital and the implications on investment returns. S2E9: Robert F. Bruner – The Panic of 1907
In the finale of Season 2, we spoke with Robert Bruner, the co-author of “The Panic of 1907: Lessons Learned from the Market’s Perfect Storm”. Mr. Bruner identifies the causes of past financial crises and offers insights into how the everyday investor can prepare for difficult times. S2E8: Moneyball’s Investment Lessons
Moneyball is a parallel universe with value investing. What lessons can we learn from the book and movie? S2E7: When to Sell
It seems straightforward enough to know when to buy a stock, but knowing when to sell almost always poses a tougher challenge. Should we sell every time a holding’s price significantly increases? When is it a mistake to sell? And when does it make sense to sell at a loss? S2E6: Inversion
Why is inversion a valuable tool? In this episode, we explore the practical uses of deductive thinking and its relevance to investing. S2E5: Anchoring
Anchoring is a psychological short cut that all human beings perform. In investing, the gravity of anchors is so powerful and pervasive that we must educate ourselves on this topic. Listen to this episode to gain awareness of the nuances of anchoring and learn what can be done to prevent it. S2E4: Christopher Mayer on 100 Baggers
Christopher Mayer, portfolio manager of Woodlock House Family Capital and author of 100 Baggers, shares his insights on what attributes to seek in long term winning investments and what he learned from legendary investor Chuck Akre. S2E3: 100 to 1 in the Stock Market (Part 2)
In the second part of 100 to 1, we complete our review of Thomas Phelps’s investment classic with the numerical and fundamental realities supporting stocks that deliver a high rate of long-term compounding. S2E2: 100 to 1 in the Stock Market (Part 1)
In 1972, an investment classic called “100 to 1 in the Stock Market” was published. This episode outlines the psychological aspects and investors’ self-defeating behaviors explained in the book. S2E1: Dr. George Athanassakos – The Character of a Value Investor
In this episode, we are rejoined by Dr. George Athanassakos during his European lecture tour to discuss his new book, “Value Investing: From Theory to Practice”. We discussed numerous topics, including the character and proper mindset needed to succeed as a value investor. S1E9: Dr. George Athanassakos – Value Investing: From Theory to Practice
Dr. Athanassakos is the Ben Graham Chair in Value Investing at the Ivey Business School and is a pioneer in introducing value investing into the university curriculum. In this episode, George shares his interesting journey, provides a peak into his upcoming book, and discusses the state of value investing today. S1E8: Mark DeLuzio – Principal Architect of the Danaher Business System (DBS)
Danaher has achieved incredible investment and operating results over more than three decades. Underpinning this success is the consistent application of the Danaher Business System (DBS). Listen in as Mr. DeLuzio, the principal architect of DBS, shares invaluable insights for CEOs and investors. S1E7: Spin-Off Investing
Besides being a historically ‘nutritious’ place to hunt for value, the dynamics behind a spin-off are inherently interesting and oppose the forces that make markets efficient. S1E6: The Intelligent Investor: The Investor and Market Fluctuations (Ch. 8)
Tune in to learn about Mr. Market and how to use him to your advantage. S1E5: Checklists & MCARV
The checklist is a simple yet overlooked tool in making investment decisions. If you haven’t been using one up until now, it is a good idea to begin thinking about its importance. S1E4: Andrew Garrett – Commercial Real Estate During the Pandemic
The pandemic has darkened sentiment toward publicly traded REITs, especially those that own office and retail properties. However, what are the thoughts of an ultra long-term investor with deep knowledge of these asset classes? S1E3: The Intelligent Investor: Margin of Safety (Ch. 20)
In this episode, we discuss Chapter 20 of The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham. S1E2: Jonathan Baird – Factors Driving a Volatile 2020
In this episode, we have an interesting conversation with Jonathan Baird of the The Global Investment Letter about factors that are driving a volatile 2020 in the markets. S1E1: Price and Value
What is the difference between price and value? Listen in as we explore this most basic of investing questions. Episode Zero: Trailer
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